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== The Dogelore Civil War, One Of The Most Imporant Events In The History Of Dogelore. ==
[[File:Fakeowner.png|thumb|643x643px|Fake Owner]]It is the 17th of June 2019. Chaos ensues in the Dogelore discord, the '''Dogelore Civil War''' begins...<blockquote>''All I hear is unban zeem and emma,''
THE DOGELORE CIVIL WAR ''( '''Late May - Early June''', Major events happened on the 17th of June and the 18th of June )''


June Conflict, (among loyalists) Fatherland Liberation War, Anti-Zeemist Campaign, June 18th Incident, (among separatists and Zeemists) Second Dogelore War, Dogeneral Square Massacre, Day of Reckoning
''Dogelore civil war I just wanna grill for gods sake!''


== The Beginnings ==
~ Ace_Skeletonne, 2019.</blockquote>
The conflict dates back to late may and early june, when hhh, a friend of zeemgeem got moderation perms for helping developing a few parts of the server.  


Emma as well as a few other users, have requested to transfer ownership from kirbizia to zeemgeem.


Her inactivity and doing nothing in terms of actual moderation gave a few good points.
'''THE DOGELORE CIVIL WAR''' ~ (Late May - Mid June, major events happened on the 17th of June and the 18th of June.)


The concept of an ownership transfer steadily gained a lot of traction in the public channels of Dogelore over the course of the week.  
The Dogelore Civil War has many names, such as the June Conflict, (Amongst Loyalists) Fatherland Liberation War, Anti-Zeemist Campaign, June 18th Incident, Second Dogelore War or the Dogeneral Square Massacre.<ref>[https://dogelore2.fandom.com/wiki/Dogelore_Civil_War Dogelore Civil War page on the r/Dogelore fandom wiki presumably made by Penguin showcasing all of the other names of the Civil War.]</ref>


By many it is seen as one of the most important events in the history of the dogelore Discord server; dogelore would look extremely different if the Zeemists had won the conflict.


On the 17th of june, kirbizia banned zeemgeem and emma with the annoucement. Afterwards on the 18th of june. She resigned as the owner and handed it to hhh.
== The Civil War ==
[[File:RecapDLCW.mp4|thumb|A recap of the conflict.]]
The initial start of the conflict dates back to around late May and early June, when [[Hhh|hhh,]] a friend of [[Zeemgeem|Zeemgeem,]] received moderation permissions for helping the development and progress of a few parts of the server. The current owner, [[Kirbizia]], was heavily disliked amongst much of the staff team. This all led to [[Emma]] and a few other members of the community asking for an ownership transfer from Kirbizia to Zeemgeem. Kirbizia's inactivity and not doing much in terms of actual moderation gave Emma a few good reasons for the swap The concept of an eventual ownership transfer started gaining steam in the public channels of the server over the course of the week. This upset Kirbizia who on the 17th of June banned Zeemgeem and Emma together with an announcement.


In the annoucements channel, she stated that she didn't like the position she was in, and that she was an awful owner of Dogelore.
<blockquote>''"Zeemgeem and Emma were banned, if they want to make another server let them. Sucks it had to come to this, probably gonna add more mods now though. This is gonna be the last "executive decision". Make from now on this server will be more democratic.''


Afterwards she unbanned zeemgeem and emma with the intentions of letting them talk out the things with h. Then left the server.
''No more advertising by me and I'll become more active I've been a kinda shitty owner tbh''


== Sides of the Conflict ==
''to those wondering what happened, Zeemgeem wanted owner of the server even though she had the head admin role which is identical to owner but she can't delete the server. She insisted on ownership''
'''Loyalists''' - Led by hhh, considered to be the ones whom won the war, after it, h remained the owner. And most loyalists retained the power.
 
''trying to say I was going rogue and that i would be more likely to delete the server, which is off the goop. They kept trying to get the server and I didn't want to get a LunarShadows type situation so I banned them instead of a demod as they would constantly cause drama and server politics."'' </blockquote>In this announcement Kirbizia stated that she was not happy with the position she was in, and admitted that she hadn't been the greatest owner. She also promised that from now on she would be more active. This did not quell the user base fully, as many users were still upset.
 
Eventually she unbanned Zeemgeem and Emma with the intentions of letting them talk out things with hhh as she passed down ownership of the server to them. This officially brought about the beginning of the Dogelore Civil War.<ref>[https://i.gyazo.com/de68cdb0092740cab2c4c3eae2fc3985.png Kirbizia's announcement about her passing ownership to Hhh.]</ref>
 
=== Sides of the Conflict ===
There were two main sides in this conflict, the Zeemists who were loyal supporters of Zeemgeem receiving ownership of the server and the loyalists who wanted hhh to stay as owner of the server.
 
=== '''Loyalists''' ===
The Loyalists were led by hhh, considered to be the ones who won the civil war, they remained owner of the server until the eventual [[The HHH Drama|hhh drama]].


'''ACCUSED OF'''  
'''ACCUSED OF'''  


Being corrupt and incompetent. Speculations of hhh being an alt account of kirbizia.  
Being corrupt and incompetent, there were also heavy speculations of hhh being an alt account of Kirbizia.<ref>[https://imgur.com/a/8av91jC Album showcasing vote manipulation in a poll in which supposedly HHH removed votes that agreed to changing the ownership of the server.]</ref>


=== '''Zeemists''' ===
Led by Zeemgeem, considered to be the losers of the civil war. Some of the main leaders were banned, others being demoted.


'''Zeemists''' - Led by zeemgeem, considered to be the ones who lost the war, main leaders banned / demodded, created their own server which now has spiralled into huge unactivity.  
Zeemgeem created her own server called "cum city" that has remained somewhat active to this day.


'''ACCUSED OF'''  
'''ACCUSED OF'''  


members of the zeemist faction have been accused of breaking many integral rules, mass pinging aswell as spamming.
Members of the Zeemist faction were accused of breaking many rules, such as mass pinging, spamming, and causing general mass havoc amongst the dogelore community.
 
=== HHH Rumble ===
After hhh received ownership of the server, many of the staff wanted them to pass it down to Zeemgeem. Instead of passing down ownership, hhh gave her a useless role named "owner" which did nothing. When the moderators started questioning hhh's delay, they stayed silent and didn't respond to any questions.
 
It upset many of the staff and as time passed, tensions started to build. The staff began to suspect that hhh had no intention of handing down ownership to Zeemgeem and only gave the owner role to somewhat calm down things temporarily. Eventually the conflict slowly started entering the public dogeneral chatroom and an eventual banishment of two known users, [[Gabe]] and [[Flat Rat]] who spiraled the drama into a gigantic mess that was unable to be controlled by the staff team.
 
As the conflict escalated, many channels were bombarded with rule breaking imagery, spam, and protests from the Zeemists. Eventually, [[Ultra]] pinged @everyone with a copypasta that was posted by Gabe that detailed the toxicity of the moderators. Zeemgeem started posting many invites to a splinter server for the Zeemists called "Cum City". It was an alternative server for dogelore users who disliked hhh's ownership of the server. This led to Zeemgeem being muted and then banned. Dogeneral was temporarily quarantined, and many members of the community decided to leave the server for good.
 
=== The Aftermath ===
Everything resulted in Zeemgeem, Ultra and many other members being banned for rule breaking.
[[File:June17th.png|thumb|493x493px|Zeemgeem Coping Hard]]
Emma was de-modded from their position, but Flat Rat was eventually re-modded. The [[dogelore]] server and Cum City now exist as separate entities. After the conflict settled down, the remaining staff team released a long post documenting what had happened over the last few days:
 
<blockquote>''"Let’s get to the point. Zeem & Emma are no more. Whichever side you happened to be on during this ordeal, you need to accept this is the reality. They will not be unbanned, ever. Whether you were for or against them, we all share a common interest - preserving this unique and diverse community. We need to stop dividing each other into groups and engaging in tribalism - it’s pointless. This case was a learning point for all of us. It has happened in the past before as well, and we need to make sure this will never happen again. We will update our moderator team selection & closely watch the server in the upcoming weeks. A true democratization process will begin, and anti-corruption policies will be implemented. Hopefully, this will just be a dark place in the Wacky Dog Fandom’s bright and supportive history. Let the past not divide us. Save the wacky. Save the world."''


== HHH Rumble ==
''<br />
In the mod chat h told the mod team that they would transfer ownership to zeem, they gave him a useless role called "owner" but that didn't actually transfer ownership.
All that happened was for a reason. Below you will find a simple timeline of the events that led to their permanent removal:''


when mods started questioning the delay, hhh stayed silent. and didn't respond to any questions.
''"- Zeemgeem was the Head Admin, had every permission except delete server''
- She and Emma beg for ownership of the server from Kirbizia to the point where they harass her
- Kirbizia won't give Zeem ownership, threatens to ban them
- Eventually, she is forced to do so
- Kirbizia the next day decides the drama, harassment and stress isn't worth it, hands ownership to close friend "Hhh" and leaves the server
- This close friend is relentlessly harassed by Zeem and Emma, after they were unbanned out of goodwill, for the same reason: that Hhh should give Zeem ownership
- All hell breaks loose, Zeem & Emma let themselves all out in the mod chat, lack of loyalty to the community and selfishness is confirmed
- Taxi creates a poll demanding Hhh to resign, only approving votes were from mods and few users, fails
- The public poll which was failing is deleted, trying to save face and violating 24h upkeep time
- Mod poll is hosted to eliminate democracy, knowing that nearly all mods oppose Hhh
- Hhh can't take the emotional manipulation and temporarily goes into hiding, holds off on banning or de-modding Zeem and Emma
- Zeem supporters ban four prominent users from the discord for no reason
- This finally prompts hhh to take action
- Server falls into anarchy"


As time passed tensions built. Many mods began to suspect that hhh never even wanted to hand ownership to zeem and only gave the owner role to calm things down a bit.
''<br />
And remember - it's over. It's all over. As quick as it all happened, it's all over.''


Tensions built and the events slowly began to enter the public chats such as dogeneral,
''"There is no need to be afraid anymore. Zeem & Emma won't be coming back. We know what they've done. You all didn't deserve to be hurt by what transpired. Kirbizia didn't deserve it. hhh didn't deserve it. Nobody did. Not even they deserved what happened to them.''


eventually it all resulted to banning of gabe and flat rat. Afterwards, the conflict spiralled into a gigantic mess and the moderation team couldn't control it. The General Chat was in Shock.
''As all this fades into the past, change must come. This change will come in the form of a new moderator team, made up of some of the server's very best, loyal and active users who won't let us down.''


''Many of you believed their lies. You didn't deserve to be cheated on like that. No more lies. No more of that. The new team of moderators will implement several policies, redesigns and techniques to wash away the anarchy and bring back order. Change is coming. Don't fear it.''


As the conflicts escalated. Many chats were bombarded with rule breaks and spam and Mass Protests,
''You were lied to. Some of you were manipulated. Some even emotionally abused. It's not always easy to recognize the snake in a bountiful garden. We have.''


During the protests, ultra pinged everyone with a copypasta posted by gabe that detailed the toxicity of the mods.  
''Zeem and Emma made their true nature known today in the mod chat. Where all moderators are supposed to be equal, where honesty should've been expected, where innocent people shouldn't have been sent death threats. No more.''


Zeem posted many invites to cum city, an Alternative Discord. And soon. He was punished for it, muted and then banned. #dogeneral was quarantined and many users and mods left the server
''Below is an album full of evidence. This is the side you never saw of those you advocated for."''


== The Aftermath ==
</blockquote>
Zeemgeem was banned for rulebreaking, just like ultra.


Emma was demodded and Flat rat was remodded, r/dogelore and cum city now exist as separate entities, with cum city becoming unactive and r/dogelore reaching 60 thousand members.
== References ==
[[Category:Dogelore events]]
[[Category:Server Conflicts]]

Latest revision as of 21:21, 11 December 2023

Fake Owner

It is the 17th of June 2019. Chaos ensues in the Dogelore discord, the Dogelore Civil War begins...

All I hear is unban zeem and emma,

Dogelore civil war I just wanna grill for gods sake!

~ Ace_Skeletonne, 2019.


THE DOGELORE CIVIL WAR ~ (Late May - Mid June, major events happened on the 17th of June and the 18th of June.)

The Dogelore Civil War has many names, such as the June Conflict, (Amongst Loyalists) Fatherland Liberation War, Anti-Zeemist Campaign, June 18th Incident, Second Dogelore War or the Dogeneral Square Massacre.[1]

By many it is seen as one of the most important events in the history of the dogelore Discord server; dogelore would look extremely different if the Zeemists had won the conflict.

The Civil War[edit | edit source]

A recap of the conflict.

The initial start of the conflict dates back to around late May and early June, when hhh, a friend of Zeemgeem, received moderation permissions for helping the development and progress of a few parts of the server. The current owner, Kirbizia, was heavily disliked amongst much of the staff team. This all led to Emma and a few other members of the community asking for an ownership transfer from Kirbizia to Zeemgeem. Kirbizia's inactivity and not doing much in terms of actual moderation gave Emma a few good reasons for the swap The concept of an eventual ownership transfer started gaining steam in the public channels of the server over the course of the week. This upset Kirbizia who on the 17th of June banned Zeemgeem and Emma together with an announcement.

"Zeemgeem and Emma were banned, if they want to make another server let them. Sucks it had to come to this, probably gonna add more mods now though. This is gonna be the last "executive decision". Make from now on this server will be more democratic.

No more advertising by me and I'll become more active I've been a kinda shitty owner tbh

to those wondering what happened, Zeemgeem wanted owner of the server even though she had the head admin role which is identical to owner but she can't delete the server. She insisted on ownership

trying to say I was going rogue and that i would be more likely to delete the server, which is off the goop. They kept trying to get the server and I didn't want to get a LunarShadows type situation so I banned them instead of a demod as they would constantly cause drama and server politics."

In this announcement Kirbizia stated that she was not happy with the position she was in, and admitted that she hadn't been the greatest owner. She also promised that from now on she would be more active. This did not quell the user base fully, as many users were still upset.

Eventually she unbanned Zeemgeem and Emma with the intentions of letting them talk out things with hhh as she passed down ownership of the server to them. This officially brought about the beginning of the Dogelore Civil War.[2]

Sides of the Conflict[edit | edit source]

There were two main sides in this conflict, the Zeemists who were loyal supporters of Zeemgeem receiving ownership of the server and the loyalists who wanted hhh to stay as owner of the server.

Loyalists[edit | edit source]

The Loyalists were led by hhh, considered to be the ones who won the civil war, they remained owner of the server until the eventual hhh drama.

ACCUSED OF

Being corrupt and incompetent, there were also heavy speculations of hhh being an alt account of Kirbizia.[3]

Zeemists[edit | edit source]

Led by Zeemgeem, considered to be the losers of the civil war. Some of the main leaders were banned, others being demoted.

Zeemgeem created her own server called "cum city" that has remained somewhat active to this day.

ACCUSED OF

Members of the Zeemist faction were accused of breaking many rules, such as mass pinging, spamming, and causing general mass havoc amongst the dogelore community.

HHH Rumble[edit | edit source]

After hhh received ownership of the server, many of the staff wanted them to pass it down to Zeemgeem. Instead of passing down ownership, hhh gave her a useless role named "owner" which did nothing. When the moderators started questioning hhh's delay, they stayed silent and didn't respond to any questions.

It upset many of the staff and as time passed, tensions started to build. The staff began to suspect that hhh had no intention of handing down ownership to Zeemgeem and only gave the owner role to somewhat calm down things temporarily. Eventually the conflict slowly started entering the public dogeneral chatroom and an eventual banishment of two known users, Gabe and Flat Rat who spiraled the drama into a gigantic mess that was unable to be controlled by the staff team.

As the conflict escalated, many channels were bombarded with rule breaking imagery, spam, and protests from the Zeemists. Eventually, Ultra pinged @everyone with a copypasta that was posted by Gabe that detailed the toxicity of the moderators. Zeemgeem started posting many invites to a splinter server for the Zeemists called "Cum City". It was an alternative server for dogelore users who disliked hhh's ownership of the server. This led to Zeemgeem being muted and then banned. Dogeneral was temporarily quarantined, and many members of the community decided to leave the server for good.

The Aftermath[edit | edit source]

Everything resulted in Zeemgeem, Ultra and many other members being banned for rule breaking.

Zeemgeem Coping Hard

Emma was de-modded from their position, but Flat Rat was eventually re-modded. The dogelore server and Cum City now exist as separate entities. After the conflict settled down, the remaining staff team released a long post documenting what had happened over the last few days:

"Let’s get to the point. Zeem & Emma are no more. Whichever side you happened to be on during this ordeal, you need to accept this is the reality. They will not be unbanned, ever. Whether you were for or against them, we all share a common interest - preserving this unique and diverse community. We need to stop dividing each other into groups and engaging in tribalism - it’s pointless. This case was a learning point for all of us. It has happened in the past before as well, and we need to make sure this will never happen again. We will update our moderator team selection & closely watch the server in the upcoming weeks. A true democratization process will begin, and anti-corruption policies will be implemented. Hopefully, this will just be a dark place in the Wacky Dog Fandom’s bright and supportive history. Let the past not divide us. Save the wacky. Save the world."


All that happened was for a reason. Below you will find a simple timeline of the events that led to their permanent removal:

"- Zeemgeem was the Head Admin, had every permission except delete server - She and Emma beg for ownership of the server from Kirbizia to the point where they harass her - Kirbizia won't give Zeem ownership, threatens to ban them - Eventually, she is forced to do so - Kirbizia the next day decides the drama, harassment and stress isn't worth it, hands ownership to close friend "Hhh" and leaves the server - This close friend is relentlessly harassed by Zeem and Emma, after they were unbanned out of goodwill, for the same reason: that Hhh should give Zeem ownership - All hell breaks loose, Zeem & Emma let themselves all out in the mod chat, lack of loyalty to the community and selfishness is confirmed - Taxi creates a poll demanding Hhh to resign, only approving votes were from mods and few users, fails - The public poll which was failing is deleted, trying to save face and violating 24h upkeep time - Mod poll is hosted to eliminate democracy, knowing that nearly all mods oppose Hhh - Hhh can't take the emotional manipulation and temporarily goes into hiding, holds off on banning or de-modding Zeem and Emma - Zeem supporters ban four prominent users from the discord for no reason - This finally prompts hhh to take action - Server falls into anarchy"


And remember - it's over. It's all over. As quick as it all happened, it's all over.

"There is no need to be afraid anymore. Zeem & Emma won't be coming back. We know what they've done. You all didn't deserve to be hurt by what transpired. Kirbizia didn't deserve it. hhh didn't deserve it. Nobody did. Not even they deserved what happened to them.

As all this fades into the past, change must come. This change will come in the form of a new moderator team, made up of some of the server's very best, loyal and active users who won't let us down.

Many of you believed their lies. You didn't deserve to be cheated on like that. No more lies. No more of that. The new team of moderators will implement several policies, redesigns and techniques to wash away the anarchy and bring back order. Change is coming. Don't fear it.

You were lied to. Some of you were manipulated. Some even emotionally abused. It's not always easy to recognize the snake in a bountiful garden. We have.

Zeem and Emma made their true nature known today in the mod chat. Where all moderators are supposed to be equal, where honesty should've been expected, where innocent people shouldn't have been sent death threats. No more.

Below is an album full of evidence. This is the side you never saw of those you advocated for."

References[edit | edit source]