Editing 2Balkan4U

{{Infobox subreddit
| name = {{PAGENAME}}
| image = Balkanchungus.png
| status = banned
| subscribers = ~100,000+ (Before Ban)
| owner = "Hlias"
| founded = ~2019 (?)
| founder = "Pea"
| discord = https://discord.gg/PjJKYGryyz
| link = https://www.reddit.com/r/2balkan4u
}}
[[File:Balkan.png|thumb|195x195px|Perfect Description]]
/r/'''2Balkan4U''' was a meme subreddit oriented around ultranationalistic ironic memes Balkan people would agree with unironically. The subreddit had opened a gateway into tons of spin-off subreddits for different regions of the world, for example 2Visegrad4U, a subreddit oriented around ultranationalistic memes about countries in the Visegrad (Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland.) The subreddit was unfortunately banned on February 1st, 2022, after long discussions by reddit administrators and the subreddit's moderators that were an attempt to save the subreddit from meeting a deadly fate.

== History ==

=== Origins ===
Originally the subreddit was founded by a user known as "pea", whilst the actual owner of the subreddit was hlias, he was the person who made it grow so much in the first place, when he was the subreddit's owner he made the subreddit grow from 0 to around 100 thousand members during his time.

=== Banishment ===
Around two months before the subreddit's ban, a certain reddit administrator by the name of u/Chtorrr (This admin has a long history of annoying subreddit moderators and banning known subreddits for almost no reason at all.) would send a modmail relating to user flairs having "hateful content within them"

all of the userflairs were forcibly deleted by Chtorr, with the mods not releasing the reasons why to the public until very close to the subreddit's end date.
{{Quote|Hi everyone. It has come to our attention that your community has a huge number of user flairs that violate rule 1. This is not okay. I have removed user flairs from your subreddit entirely and you are not to add them back or any reason.|u/Chtorrr}}
Most of these discussions with the administrators would achieve nothing, as a last resort the mods would choose to announce the truth and make the users of the subreddit spread the message everywhere.

''Below are the first modmail discussion screenshots.''<gallery>
File:Modmail1.png|''Straight up deleted every userflair and disabled them without a warning or even talking to us about it prior to deleting them thus leaving us with no chances...''
File:Modmail2.png|''After questioning a bit her decision and explaining to her that the subreddit is a regional one she most likely never read the reply and replied with a senseless message thus we tried to explain it to her once again about our situation.. As you can see fully letting her know that we can cooperate with her to work things out''
File:Modmail3.png|''And she again most likely didn't read our last reply for giving that message that doesn't answer anything or makes 0 counter arguments for what we wrote.. I let her know once again even saying "sorry for the long response" since at that point i was pretty sure that she never reads my replies.''
File:Modmail4.png|''Then she basically straight up says that her deleting the userflairs without warning us made it so we had no other choice than to listen to her orders and keep the userflairs disabled since when userflairs are deleted and not edited users will still have the old userflairs once we enable them even tho all the old userflairs are deleted... Makes you think if she did this without warning so we deliberately wouldn't have a choice''
File:Modmail5.png|''Even after we used our development team to create a bot that took out every single userflair from every single user 1 by 1 in the span of 5-6 hours, thinking that we secured our problems we went to chtorrr frustrated after days of stress on the situation with the whole subreddit asking about the userflairs while chtorrr kept giving us senseless responses that didn't help anyone, and guess what happened even tho we did all the work, ofcourse another senseless response with 0 signs of cooperation.''
</gallery>The second modmail, warning, or whatever one would use was also quite ridicilous, with the administrator clearly not knowing or being able to see through balkan irony, they would warn the mod team against "approving hateful content in the community." Aka; slightly dark and ironic balkan memes, who only users of the subreddit could manageably understand, or people with enough historical knowledge of balkan history and culture. As apart of a process reddit administrators go through in order to get a subreddit banned, Chtorr would constantly ignore and not cooperate with the moderation team. Leaving the mods powerless. After all these discussions Chtorrr would turn the spam filter to "all" meaning that she wanted the moderators to moderate every single post that came in the subreddit including all the automod deleted ones. The mods would also attempt to reach to the higher ups through a mod support subreddit, wanting to report Chtorrr for abuse of their powers. Unfortunately the other admin who'd respond would not do anything of use.

--- gaery here -

The subreddit was eventually banned due to being unmoderated, and breaking the site rules too often after having their content filter increased to everything. The subreddit was banned on February 1st, 2022. With tons of cries within pretty much almost every major meme subreddit, perhaps similar to that of /r/[[BigChungus]]' banishment.

The subreddit also has an instagram and twitter account, both still relatively active to today, the instagram account having around 2000 followers, whilst the twitter account has around 150.
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 File:Modmail4.png|''Then she basically straight up says that her deleting the userflairs without warning us made it so we had no other choice than to listen to her orders and keep the userflairs disabled since when userflairs are deleted and not edited users will still have the old userflairs once we enable them even tho all the old userflairs are deleted... Makes you think if she did this without warning so we deliberately wouldn't have a choice''
 File:Modmail5.png|''Even after we used our development team to create a bot that took out every single userflair from every single user 1 by 1 in the span of 5-6 hours, thinking that we secured our problems we went to chtorrr frustrated after days of stress on the situation with the whole subreddit asking about the userflairs while chtorrr kept giving us senseless responses that didn't help anyone, and guess what happened even tho we did all the work, ofcourse another senseless response with 0 signs of cooperation.''
-</gallery>The second modmail, warning, or whatever one would use was also quite ridicilous, with the administrator clearly not knowing or being able to see through balkan irony, they would warn the mod team against "approving hateful content in the community." Aka; slightly dark and ironic balkan memes, who only users of the subreddit could manageably understand, or people with enough historical knowledge of balkan history and culture. As apart of a process reddit administrators go through in order to get a subreddit banned, Chtorr would constantly ignore and not cooperate with the moderation team. Leaving the mods powerless. After all these discussions Chtorrr would turn the spam filter to "all" meaning that she wanted the moderators to moderate every single post that came in the subreddit including all the automod deleted ones. The mods would also attempt to reach to the higher ups through a mod support subreddit, wanting to report Chtorrr for abuse of their powers. Unfortunately the other admin who'd respond would not do anything of use.<gallery>
+</gallery>The second modmail, warning, or whatever one would use was also quite ridicilous, with the administrator clearly not knowing or being able to see through balkan irony, they would warn the mod team against "approving hateful content in the community." Aka; slightly dark and ironic balkan memes, who only users of the subreddit could manageably understand, or people with enough historical knowledge of balkan history and culture. As apart of a process reddit administrators go through in order to get a subreddit banned, Chtorr would constantly ignore and not cooperate with the moderation team. Leaving the mods powerless. After all these discussions Chtorrr would turn the spam filter to "all" meaning that she wanted the moderators to moderate every single post that came in the subreddit including all the automod deleted ones. The mods would also attempt to reach to the higher ups through a mod support subreddit, wanting to report Chtorrr for abuse of their powers. Unfortunately the other admin who'd respond would not do anything of use.
-File:Modmail6.png|''As expected chtorrr came to us once again as part of his strategy to destroy the "controversial" sub little by little... at this point me and the whole mod team were frustrated and said enough is enough, thus changed our approach to chtorrrs bullying into a aggressive tone and asking chtorrr to give us a different admin to talk to.''
-File:Modmail7.png|''We challenge rule 1 and chtorrrs ridiculous choices by explaining once again the stance of the subreddit. Once again we asked for a different admin to come to this case for us to talk with but we we're 100% sure that chtorrr wouldn't read the whole reply because who can stop you when you can't read?''
+--- gaery here -
-File:Modmail8.png|''As predicted, once again senseless reply after senseless reply she again didn't read the last reply. At that point we were at our limits so we became fully aggressive towards her and her decision, she never was professional about this thus we stopped being professionally about it too and tried to speak her "language". She probably read the reply for once in her life since she never replied to it lol.... ofcourse no other admin came to the modmail even tho we asked for one 3 times already...''
-File:Modmail9.png|''At that point as a last ditch effort we tried to make the simple deal with her so we can re-enable the userflairs. "No." was her answer... At that point we couldn't do anything else to defend the subreddit since it is useless talking to a wall.''
+The subreddit was eventually banned due to being unmoderated, and breaking the site rules too often after having their content filter increased to everything. The subreddit was banned on February 1st, 2022. With tons of cries within pretty much almost every major meme subreddit, perhaps similar to that of /r/[[BigChungus]]' banishment.
-File:Modmail10.png|''Ladies and gentleman after 2 months of talking to a wall trying to talk reason, chtorrr has finally did her biggest outmost energy intensive effort to help us!..by turning the spam filter to "all" meaning that she wanted us to moderate every single post that comes in the subreddit including all the automod deleted ones... We we're done with chtorrr's bullying.''
-</gallery>The subreddit was eventually banned due to being unmoderated, and breaking the site rules too often after having their content filter increased to everything. The subreddit was banned on February 1st, 2022. With tons of cries within pretty much almost every major meme subreddit, perhaps similar to that of /r/[[BigChungus]]' banishment. Before this, the regional subreddits for caucasian memes, middle eastern memes and asian memes had already been banned.
 The subreddit also has an instagram and twitter account, both still relatively active to today, the instagram account having around 2000 followers, whilst the twitter account has around 150.
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