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'''THE DOGELORE CIVIL WAR''' ~ (Late May - Mid June, major events happened on the 17th of June and the 18th of June.)
'''THE DOGELORE CIVIL WAR''' ~ (Late May - Mid June, major events happened on the 17th of June and the 18th of June.)


The Dogelore civil war has many names, such as the June Conflict, (Amongst Loyalists) Fatherland Liberation War, Anti-Zeemist Campaign, June 18th Incident, Second Dogelore War or the Dogeneral Square Massacre.<ref>[https://dogelore2.fandom.com/wiki/Dogelore_Civil_War Dogelore Civil War page on the r/Dogelore fandom wiki presumably made by Penguin showcasing all of the other names of the Civil War.]</ref>
The Dogelore Civil War has many names, such as the June Conflict, (Amongst Loyalists) Fatherland Liberation War, Anti-Zeemist Campaign, June 18th Incident, Second Dogelore War or the Dogeneral Square Massacre.<ref>[https://dogelore2.fandom.com/wiki/Dogelore_Civil_War Dogelore Civil War page on the r/Dogelore fandom wiki presumably made by Penguin showcasing all of the other names of the Civil War.]</ref>
[[File:Fakeowner.png|thumb|643x643px|Fake Owner]]
[[File:Fakeowner.png|thumb|643x643px|Fake Owner]]
By many it is seen as one of the most important events in the history of the Dogelore discord server; Dogelore would look extremly different if the Zeemists had won the conflict.
By many it is seen as one of the most important events in the history of the dogelore discord server; dogelore would look extremely different if the Zeemists had won the conflict.


== The Civil War ==
== The Civil War ==
The initial start of the conflict dates back to around late May and early June, when [[Hhh]] a friend of [[Zeemgeem]] received moderation permissions for helping the development and progress of a few parts of the server, the current owner [[Kirbizia]] was heavily disliked amongst much of the staff team. This all led to [[Emma]] and a few other members of the community asking for an ownership transfer from Kirbizia to Zeemgeem. Kirbizia's inactivity and not doing much in terms of actual moderation gave Emma a few good points, the concept of an eventual ownership transfer started gaining steam in the public channels of the server over the course of the week, this upset Kirbizia who on the 17th of June banned Zeemgeem and Emma together with an announcement.   
The initial start of the conflict dates back to around late May and early June, when [[Hhh|hhh,]] a friend of [[Zeemgeem|Zeemgeem,]] received moderation permissions for helping the development and progress of a few parts of the server. The current owner, [[Kirbizia]], was heavily disliked amongst much of the staff team. This all led to [[Emma]] and a few other members of the community asking for an ownership transfer from Kirbizia to Zeemgeem. Kirbizia's inactivity and not doing much in terms of actual moderation gave Emma a few good reasons for the swap The concept of an eventual ownership transfer started gaining steam in the public channels of the server over the course of the week. This upset Kirbizia who on the 17th of June banned Zeemgeem and Emma together with an announcement.   


<blockquote>''"Zeemgeem and Emma were banned, if they want to make another server let them. Sucks it had to come to this, probably gonna add more mods now though. This is gonna be the last "executive decision". Make from now on this server will be more democratic.''  
<blockquote>''"Zeemgeem and Emma were banned, if they want to make another server let them. Sucks it had to come to this, probably gonna add more mods now though. This is gonna be the last "executive decision". Make from now on this server will be more democratic.''  
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''to those wondering what happened, Zeemgeem wanted owner of the server even though she had the head admin role which is identical to owner but she can't delete the server. She insisted on ownership''
''to those wondering what happened, Zeemgeem wanted owner of the server even though she had the head admin role which is identical to owner but she can't delete the server. She insisted on ownership''


''trying to say I was going rogue and that i would be more likely to delete the server, which is off the goop. They kept trying to get the server and I didn't want to get a LunarShadows type situation so I banned them instead of a demod as they would constantly cause drama and server politics."'' </blockquote>In this announcement Kirbizia stated that she was not happy with the position she was in, and that she was a terrible owner. She also promised that from now on she would be more active. This did not work, and users were still somewhat upset.
''trying to say I was going rogue and that i would be more likely to delete the server, which is off the goop. They kept trying to get the server and I didn't want to get a LunarShadows type situation so I banned them instead of a demod as they would constantly cause drama and server politics."'' </blockquote>In this announcement Kirbizia stated that she was not happy with the position she was in, and admitted that she hadn't been the greatest owner. She also promised that from now on she would be more active. This did not quell the user base fully, as many users were still upset.


Eventually she unbanned Zeemgeem and Emma with the intentions of letting them talk out things with Hhh as she passed down ownership of the server to them. This officially begins the inevitable collapse of the old Dogelore system and the beginning of the Dogelore Civil War.<ref>[https://i.gyazo.com/de68cdb0092740cab2c4c3eae2fc3985.png Kirbizia's announcement about her passing ownership to Hhh.]</ref>  
Eventually she unbanned Zeemgeem and Emma with the intentions of letting them talk out things with hhh as she passed down ownership of the server to them. This officially brought about the beginning of the Dogelore Civil War.<ref>[https://i.gyazo.com/de68cdb0092740cab2c4c3eae2fc3985.png Kirbizia's announcement about her passing ownership to Hhh.]</ref>  


=== Sides of the Conflict ===
=== Sides of the Conflict ===
There were two main sides in this conflict, the Zeemists who were loyal supporters of Zeemgeem receiving ownership of the server and the loyalists who wanted Hhh to stay as owner of the server.
There were two main sides in this conflict, the Zeemists who were loyal supporters of Zeemgeem receiving ownership of the server and the loyalists who wanted hhh to stay as owner of the server.


=== '''Loyalists''' ===
=== '''Loyalists''' ===
The Loyalists were led by Hhh, considered to be the ones who won the civil war, they remained owner of the server until the eventual [[The HHH Drama|HHH Drama]].
The Loyalists were led by hhh, considered to be the ones who won the civil war, they remained owner of the server until the eventual [[The HHH Drama|hhh drama]].


'''ACCUSED OF'''  
'''ACCUSED OF'''  


Being corrupt and incompetent, there were also heavy speculations of Hhh being an alt account of Kirbizia.<ref>[https://imgur.com/a/8av91jC Album showcasing vote manipulation in a poll in which supposedly HHH removed votes that agreed to changing the ownership of the server.]</ref>  
Being corrupt and incompetent, there were also heavy speculations of hhh being an alt account of Kirbizia.<ref>[https://imgur.com/a/8av91jC Album showcasing vote manipulation in a poll in which supposedly HHH removed votes that agreed to changing the ownership of the server.]</ref>  


=== '''Zeemists''' ===
=== '''Zeemists''' ===
Led by Zeemgeem, considered to be the losers of the civil war, all of the main leaders were banned as well as demoted,
Led by Zeemgeem, considered to be the losers of the civil war. Some of the main leaders were banned, others being demoted.


Zeemgeem created her own server called cum city that has remained somewhat active to this day.
Zeemgeem created her own server called "cum city" that has remained somewhat active to this day.


'''ACCUSED OF'''  
'''ACCUSED OF'''  


Members of the Zeemist faction have been accused of breaking many integral rules, mass pinging aswell as spamming and causing mass havoc amongst the Dogelore community.
Members of the Zeemist faction were accused of breaking many rules, such as mass pinging, spamming, and causing general mass havoc amongst the dogelore community.


=== HHH Rumble ===
=== HHH Rumble ===
After Hhh received ownership of the server much of the staff wanted them to pass it down to Zeemgeem, instead of passing down ownership Hhh gave them a useless role called "owner" that did nothing, when the moderators started questioning Hhh's delay they stayed silent and didn't respond to any questions.
After hhh received ownership of the server, many of the staff wanted them to pass it down to Zeemgeem. Instead of passing down ownership, hhh gave her a useless role named "owner" which did nothing. When the moderators started questioning hhh's delay, they stayed silent and didn't respond to any questions.


It upset much of the staff and as time passed by tensions started to build. The staff started suspecting that Hhh never even wanted to hand down ownership to Zeemgeem and only gave the owner role to somewhat calm down things for a small amount of time. Eventually the conflict slowly started entering the public Dogeneral chatroom and an eventual banishment of two known users, [[Gabe]] and [[Flat Rat]] who spiraled the drama into a gigantic mess and the moderation team could not possibly have controlled it.
It upset many of the staff and as time passed, tensions started to build. The staff began to suspect that hhh had no intention of handing down ownership to Zeemgeem and only gave the owner role to somewhat calm down things temporarily. Eventually the conflict slowly started entering the public dogeneral chatroom and an eventual banishment of two known users, [[Gabe]] and [[Flat Rat]] who spiraled the drama into a gigantic mess that was unable to be controlled by the staff team.


As the conflict escalated many channels were bombarded with rule breaking imagery, span and protests from the Zeemists, eventually [[Ultra]] pinged @everyone with a copypasta that was posted by Gabe that detailed the toxicity of the moderators, Zeemgeem started posting many invites to a split off server for the Zeemists called "Cum City". It was an alternative server for Dogelore users who disliked Hhh's ownership of the server. This led to Zeemgeem being muted and then banned. Dogeneral was temporarily quarantined, and many members of the community decided to leave the server for good.
As the conflict escalated, many channels were bombarded with rule breaking imagery, spam, and protests from the Zeemists. Eventually, [[Ultra]] pinged @everyone with a copypasta that was posted by Gabe that detailed the toxicity of the moderators. Zeemgeem started posting many invites to a splinter server for the Zeemists called "Cum City". It was an alternative server for dogelore users who disliked hhh's ownership of the server. This led to Zeemgeem being muted and then banned. Dogeneral was temporarily quarantined, and many members of the community decided to leave the server for good.


=== The Aftermath ===
=== The Aftermath ===
Everything resulted in Zeemgeem, Ultra and many other unnamed members being banned for rule breaking,
Everything resulted in Zeemgeem, Ultra and many other members being banned for rule breaking.
[[File:June17th.png|thumb|493x493px|Zeemgeem Coping Hard]]
[[File:June17th.png|thumb|493x493px|Zeemgeem Coping Hard]]
Emma was de-modded from their position, but Flat Rat was eventually re-modded. The [[Dogelore]] Discord server and Cum City now exist as separate entities. After the conflict settled down the remaining staff team of the server released a long post documenting what had happened over the last few days.
Emma was de-modded from their position, but Flat Rat was eventually re-modded. The [[dogelore]] server and Cum City now exist as separate entities. After the conflict settled down, the remaining staff team released a long post documenting what had happened over the last few days:


<blockquote>''"Let’s get to the point. Zeem & Emma are no more. Whichever side you happened to be on during this ordeal, you need to accept this is the reality. They will not be unbanned, ever. Whether you were for or against them, we all share a common interest - preserving this unique and diverse community. We need to stop dividing each other into groups and engaging in tribalism - it’s pointless. This case was a learning point for all of us. It has happened in the past before as well, and we need to make sure this will never happen again. We will update our moderator team selection & closely watch the server in the upcoming weeks. A true democratization process will begin, and anti-corruption policies will be implemented. Hopefully, this will just be a dark place in the Wacky Dog Fandom’s bright and supportive history. Let the past not divide us. Save the wacky. Save the world."''
<blockquote>''"Let’s get to the point. Zeem & Emma are no more. Whichever side you happened to be on during this ordeal, you need to accept this is the reality. They will not be unbanned, ever. Whether you were for or against them, we all share a common interest - preserving this unique and diverse community. We need to stop dividing each other into groups and engaging in tribalism - it’s pointless. This case was a learning point for all of us. It has happened in the past before as well, and we need to make sure this will never happen again. We will update our moderator team selection & closely watch the server in the upcoming weeks. A true democratization process will begin, and anti-corruption policies will be implemented. Hopefully, this will just be a dark place in the Wacky Dog Fandom’s bright and supportive history. Let the past not divide us. Save the wacky. Save the world."''
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